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Fullscreen mode in xv
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Anton Shepelev
2024-09-21 14:19:13 UTC
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Hello, all.

xv seems an advanced and time-honoured image viewer, yet I can't
seem do with the most basic thing expected of an image viewer: to
view the photographs in a directory, sequentially one at a time,
in a "full-screen" mode, that is when all I see on screen is the
image and (if unavoidable) the window boundaries around the edges
of the screen, but nothing else. Can xv do it, i.e. hide its control
window, make the image window the size of the screen, and fit the
image to the dimensions of the screen, with horisonal or vertical
black bars where the aspect radio does not match?
John McCue
2024-09-21 15:55:32 UTC
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Post by Anton Shepelev
Hello, all.
xv seems an advanced and time-honoured image viewer, yet I can't
seem do with the most basic thing expected of an image viewer
xv is a great viewer, but AFAIK it is no longer maintained :(

Plus XV is kind of shareware, see the README that comes with xv.

<snip>
--
[t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
- Paraphrasing Star Wars
Anton Shepelev
2024-09-21 19:24:54 UTC
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Post by John McCue
Post by Anton Shepelev
Hello, all.
xv seems an advanced and time-honoured image viewer, yet I can't
seem do with the most basic thing expected of an image viewer
xv is a great viewer, but AFAIK it is no longer maintained :(
A program may be great as is and remain so for many years
without maintenance -- /The Beauty of Finished Software/.
But what about my question about xv: How to view images in
fullscreen without either xv's own control window, nor any
other windows, in the way?
Post by John McCue
Plus XV is kind of shareware, see the README that comes with xv.
Yes, but am neither a commerical user, not an institution, so
no problem with me.
Eli the Bearded
2024-09-22 06:14:52 UTC
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Post by Anton Shepelev
xv seems an advanced and time-honoured image viewer, yet I can't
seem do with the most basic thing expected of an image viewer: to
view the photographs in a directory, sequentially one at a time,
in a "full-screen" mode, that is when all I see on screen is the
image and (if unavoidable) the window boundaries around the edges
of the screen, but nothing else. Can xv do it, i.e. hide its control
window, make the image window the size of the screen, and fit the
image to the dimensions of the screen, with horisonal or vertical
black bars where the aspect radio does not match?
I think xv is still the default image viewer on Slackware, so the
readers of alt.os.linux.slackware may be more regular users. I have not
used xv for anything other than cropping images in years. The fast
startup and keyboard control mean I can open/crop/save/exit an image
faster than gimp can count it's plugins at startup.

For image viewing, I use feh, which can do that easily, but does not
have as many editing features as xv.

feh -F directoryname

Feh is not as old as xv, but it turns 25 this year, so it's no spring
chicken.

Elijah
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has been using feh over twenty years now
Anton Shepelev
2024-09-22 12:08:43 UTC
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Post by Eli the Bearded
Post by Anton Shepelev
xv seems an advanced and time-honoured image viewer, yet I can't
seem do with the most basic thing expected of an image viewer: to
view the photographs in a directory, sequentially one at a time,
in a "full-screen" mode, that is when all I see on screen is the
image and (if unavoidable) the window boundaries around the edges
of the screen, but nothing else. Can xv do it, i.e. hide its control
window, make the image window the size of the screen, and fit the
image to the dimensions of the screen, with horisonal or vertical
black bars where the aspect radio does not match?
I think xv is still the default image viewer on Slackware, so the
readers of alt.os.linux.slackware may be more regular users.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.misc,alt.os.linux.slackware
Followup-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Post by Eli the Bearded
I have not
used xv for anything other than cropping images in years. The fast
startup and keyboard control mean I can open/crop/save/exit an image
faster than gimp can count it's plugins at startup.
<tangent>
If you still scan negative film, you might be in interested
in RawThereappe -- and huge raw processor with a film-inversion
algorithm.
</tangent>
Post by Eli the Bearded
For image viewing, I use feh, which can do that easily, but does not
have as many editing features as xv.
feh -F directoryname
Feh is not as old as xv, but it turns 25 this year, so it's no spring
chicken.
Thank you, I will try feh.
Anton Shepelev
2024-09-22 12:11:21 UTC
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Post by Anton Shepelev
<tangent>
If you still scan negative film, you might be in interested
in RawThereappe -- and huge raw processor with a film-inversion
algorithm.
</tangent>
RawTherapee.
John McCue
2024-09-22 14:23:07 UTC
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Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
<snip>
I think xv is still the default image viewer on Slackware...
It was moved to /extra in version 15.0, but it still works
fine for me.

<snip>
Elijah
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has been using feh over twenty years now
In some cases I have started to use feh too, I got feh from
slackbuilds.
--
[t]csh(1) - "An elegant shell, for a more... civilized age."
- Paraphrasing Star Wars
Anton Shepelev
2024-09-22 22:02:10 UTC
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Post by Eli the Bearded
For image viewing, I use feh, which can do that easily, but does not
have as many editing features as xv.
feh -F directoryname
Feh is not as old as xv, but it turns 25 this year, so it's no spring
chicken.
Thank you, it works. So, does xv not support a similar full-screen
mode?
Eli the Bearded
2024-09-22 23:50:23 UTC
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Post by Anton Shepelev
Thank you, it works. So, does xv not support a similar full-screen
mode?
It looks like[*] xv can do something like that if you give it a
`-geometry` option that fills the entire screen and `-fixed` to
specify that it should treat aspect ratios as fixed.

I have not tried this. -maxpect may do the same.

[*] Section 12 of the docs, which are shipped as postscript and
my copy of gv does not like them. But I found a PDF here:
https://dav.lbl.gov/archive/NERSC/Software/xv/help/xvdocs.pdf

Elijah
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not sure xv does windows sans borders
Anton Shepelev
2024-09-23 10:24:06 UTC
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Post by Eli the Bearded
Post by Anton Shepelev
Thank you, it works. So, does xv not support a similar full-screen
mode?
It looks like[*] xv can do something like that if you give it a
`-geometry` option that fills the entire screen and `-fixed` to
specify that it should treat aspect ratios as fixed.
I have not tried this. -maxpect may do the same.
Thank you, will try.
Post by Eli the Bearded
[*] Section 12 of the docs, which are shipped as postscript and
https://dav.lbl.gov/archive/NERSC/Software/xv/help/xvdocs.pdf
PostScript is an open standard, but not entirely portable as it
requires that fonts used in the document be available on the reader
side. PDF is more portable, but proprietary...
Geoff Clare
2024-09-23 12:37:32 UTC
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Post by Anton Shepelev
PostScript is an open standard, but not entirely portable as it
requires that fonts used in the document be available on the reader
side. PDF is more portable, but proprietary...
PDF stopped being proprietary either in 2008 or 2017 depending on
your viewpoint. (It has been an ISO standard since 2008 but it
wasn't until the 2017 edition that there was a version developed
by a vendor-neutral ISO forum.)

It is even freely available now, unlike most other ISO standards.

https://pdfa.org/sponsored-standards
--
Geoff Clare <***@gclare.org.uk>
Anton Shepelev
2024-09-23 17:04:53 UTC
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Post by Geoff Clare
Post by Anton Shepelev
PostScript is an open standard, but not entirely portable as it
requires that fonts used in the document be available on the reader
side. PDF is more portable, but proprietary...
PDF stopped being proprietary either in 2008 or 2017 depending on
your viewpoint. (It has been an ISO standard since 2008 but it
wasn't until the 2017 edition that there was a version developed
by a vendor-neutral ISO forum.)
It is even freely available now, unlike most other ISO standards.
https://pdfa.org/sponsored-standards
Good to know, I stand corrected.

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